Re: [babel] WG adoption call for draft-do-babel-hmac (7/19 - 8/6)

Denis Ovsienko <denis@ovsienko.info> Mon, 13 August 2018 21:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [babel] WG adoption call for draft-do-babel-hmac (7/19 - 8/6)
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 ---- On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 21:15:43 +0100 Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote ---- 
 > Denis, 
[...]
 > >  > Those listed on the title page are asserting that they are the 
 > >  > authors. Juliusz in a separate answer has confirmed they are the 
 > >  > authors. You have not, in my opinion, as I have previously stated, 
 > >  > cited any good evidence that any of those listed on the title page are 
 > >  > not authors. Yet you are attacking their integrity and honest. 
 > > 
 > > 
 > > Donald, when somebody else attacked my integrity and honesty on the list first, both you and Russ White were fine with that. Hence I am asking you not to discriminate. 
 >  
 > If you are going to complain your integrity and honesty were attacked 
 > on the list, provide the URL to the message(s) you are referencing. WG 
 > mail archives are available in a couple places including here 
 > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/babel/current/maillist.html 

Donald, I am not going to complain about this specific point, but this is what I mean: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/babel/current/msg01179.html

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    already in 6126bis.  This is bad for a security document, and is
    especially worrying since the author has a poor track record of
    listening to stylistic (as opposed to technical) criticisms.

Should the stylistic issues with the document be fixed, and should my
ideas for fixing the vulnerability work out, I'd support adoption with no
hesitation.  As it currently stands, and since I do not trust the author
to fix the editorial issues once the document is adopted, I'm not sure.
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So do not discriminate.

-- 
    Denis Ovsienko