Re: [bess] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-spbm-evpn-01: (with COMMENT)

All,

This is the second time I see questions from ADs on "discussion on IPR
disclosures".

As far as I understand this requirement on discussion on IPRs is new
and potentially dangerous.

First and most basic - working *can't* discuss the validity of an IPR
disclosure.

Potential discussion could be held on whether we will proceed regardless
of an existing IPR disclosure.

The operational mode of most working groups are to make the existence of
an IPR disclosure know to the working group in working group adoption 
polls, working group last calls and in other postings . WG members can
then check the disclosure.

If the IPR disclosure says "we will bleed you dry if you try to
implement this standard" that might be a reason to notify the list
that it might be a bad idea to go ahead with this standard in this way.

However, most IPR disclosures gives very reasonable conditions for use
in implementations of IETF standrds- Once this is verified there is not
much to discuss.

Exactly what are we susposed to "discuss"?

/Loa

On 2015-09-29 18:15, Martin Vigoureux wrote:
> Hello Alissa,
>
> thank you.
> Regarding your comment, I searched a bit in the archives.
> The IPR disclosure (05/2013) announcement has apparently only been sent
> to ipr-announce. I hasn't been sent to the L2VPN list.
> The Chairs of the L2VPN WG did poll the list for any undisclosed IPR at
> the time of the WG LC (10/2014).
> But in short I could not find any specific discussion on the disclosure
> within L2VPN (and there has not been any in BESS which inherited of the
> doc post WGLC).
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>
>
> Le 28/09/2015 18:15, Alissa Cooper a écrit :
>> Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-bess-spbm-evpn-01: No Objection
>>
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>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-spbm-evpn/
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>> COMMENT:
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>> Was there WG discussion of https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2085/ and
>> whether to proceed? The shepherd write-up doesn't say.
>>
>>
>>
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