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Re: [Cbor] Remove .cbordet? (was Re: đź”” WGLC on draft-ietf-cbor-cddl-more-control)

Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> Sat, 23 March 2024 23:37 UTC

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From: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 19:36:37 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Cbor] Remove .cbordet? (was Re: đź”” WGLC on draft-ietf-cbor-cddl-more-control)
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Hi,

I strongly agree with Laurence.  We should publish More Controls without
.cbordet and instead only
publish CDE with the .cde control operator.

Cheers,
- Ira

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On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 7:24 PM Christian Amsüss <christian@amsuess.com>
wrote:

> Hello Carsten, Laurence,
>
> (writing here not as a chair)
>
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 08:23:36PM +0000, lgl island-resort.com wrote:
> > I’d like to suggest that we not define “.cbordet” in this document,
> > that section 4 be removed.  We want to move past the definition of CDE
> > in RFC 8949 to the new one in the new document. Let the one-and-only
> > control operator for determinism be “.cde” in draft-ietf-cbor-cde.
>
> I agree that having an operator for deterministically encoded CBOR while
> CDE is being specified will rather contribute to confusion. I'd expect
> that like EDN has become the one known diagnostic notation, CDE will
> become the one "deterministic" encoding understood if someone doesn't
> specify their own rules.
>
> While I would not object to publishing more-control with .cbordet in it,
> I have a weak preference for publishing it without.
>
> BR
> Christian
>
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