Re: [Cbor] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag-06: (with COMMENT)

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Wed, 09 September 2020 21:12 UTC

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From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 17:11:56 -0400
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Ah, never mind.  (Note to self: read the whole thread first.)
Carsten reports that it's 7049bis that's slated to change.

Barry

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 5:10 PM Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
>
> > OTOH while reading draft-ietf-cbor-7049bis-14, the major type 0 is indicated as "integer" and not as "unsigned"
>
> Iiiiinteresting, and something I didn't notice; thanks for picking it up.
>
> Indeed, 7049 says this:
>    Major type 0:  an unsigned integer.
>    Major type 1:  a negative integer.
>
> While 7049bis says this:
>    Major type 0:  an integer in the range 0..2**64-1 inclusive.
>    Major type 1:  a negative integer in the range -2**64..-1 inclusive.
>
> So, CBOR folks, give that a number of people have already tripped over
> the "unsigned or negative" wording, and that we've been defending it
> based on "unsigned" being what it's called in CBOR, is it time for us
> to align with 7049bis instead, and change the terms?
>
> Barry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, 8 September 2020 at 15:54
> > To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
> > Cc: Samita Chakrabarti <samitac.ietf@gmail.com>om>, "draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag@ietf.org>rg>, "cbor@ietf.org" <cbor@ietf.org>rg>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>rg>, "cbor-chairs@ietf.org" <cbor-chairs@ietf.org>rg>, Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com>
> > Subject: Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag-06: (with COMMENT)
> >
> >     It sounds odd indeed but if there is a sensible explanation, we are all set.
> >
> >     Thank you Barry for the added piece of information
> >
> >     -éric
> >
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From: iesg <iesg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
> >     Date: Tuesday, 8 September 2020 at 15:41
> >     To: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>
> >     Cc: Samita Chakrabarti <samitac.ietf@gmail.com>om>, "draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag@ietf.org>rg>, "cbor@ietf.org" <cbor@ietf.org>rg>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>rg>, "cbor-chairs@ietf.org" <cbor-chairs@ietf.org>rg>, Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com>
> >     Subject: Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag-06: (with COMMENT)
> >
> >         "Unsigned" and "negative" are the names two CBOR data types, and
> >         that's what the text refers to.  It does sound odd when you consider
> >         them as English terms, but they are meant as specific CBOR terms.
> >
> >         Barry
> >
> >         On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:53 AM Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
> >         <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
> >         >
> >         > Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
> >         > draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag-06: No Objection
> >         >
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> >         >
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> >         >
> >         >
> >         > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
> >         > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag/
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >         > COMMENT:
> >         > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >         >
> >         > Thank you for the work put into this document.
> >         >
> >         > Thank you Samita Chakrabarti for your IoT directorate review at
> >         > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-cbor-date-tag-06-iotdir-telechat-chakrabarti-2020-08-31/
> >         >
> >         > Please find below some nits.
> >         >
> >         > I hope that this helps to improve the document,
> >         >
> >         > Regards,
> >         >
> >         > -éric
> >         >
> >         > PS: your example in the security considerations applied to my own birthday in
> >         > Japan then in Canada ;-) and this was my only international date line crossing.
> >         > Good planing of mine ;-)
> >         >
> >         > == NITS ==
> >         >
> >         > -- Section 1 and IANA section --
> >         > In the text "The tagged integer is an unsigned or negative value", should it
> >         > rather be "The tagged integer is a positive or negative value" ?
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >
> >
> >