Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime
Matt Miller <mamille2@cisco.com> Mon, 21 November 2016 16:55 UTC
Return-Path: <mamille2@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: dane@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dane@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23781129590 for <dane@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 21 Nov 2016 08:55:12 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -16.019
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-16.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cXIcRJQoD3Uh for <dane@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 21 Nov 2016 08:55:10 -0800 (PST)
Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59FB6129570 for <dane@ietf.org>; Mon, 21 Nov 2016 08:55:10 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=4677; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1479747310; x=1480956910; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version: in-reply-to; bh=F60pZflisk5IsAL1eEegWtQVy7fVvUl3qd0vFvXbxPA=; b=RmNMsWtOZFvrkwKHMOFyYshNgTTe5HmUS8XNUP5NBMIgYClQMEn99jwE 4xSGv2x6DBsUlNcFy8r8FYSJ5D3Q7fTmPkixJgcI/D+PIM1yNnxWOIs0t RROcM8IESqyVtPa/TgTUQ6dQ7oc4f36rP4cSBB4DfJ7uCRUJBrQoy3auk I=;
X-Files: signature.asc : 496
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0AJAwAeJjNY/4cNJK1dGgEBAQECAQEBAQgBAQEBgzgBAQEBAR9YLFSNP5VrAQEBAQEBBQGBGAEDlG6CBR0LhXkCggM/FAECAQEBAQEBAWIohGkBAQQBAQFrGwsYJwcnHxETBgIBAYhpDq0Hi0wBAQEHAQEBARUJBYVygkcIglWFFYUVBYElAY5BimQCg1aBenKKNYFwhHeDHIYkjV+ECx43cz0vgnscgX1SiFEBAQE
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.31,528,1473120000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="176101758"
Received: from alln-core-2.cisco.com ([173.36.13.135]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 21 Nov 2016 16:55:09 +0000
Received: from [64.101.72.26] ([64.101.72.26]) by alln-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id uALGt8T3024468 for <dane@ietf.org>; Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:55:09 GMT
To: dane@ietf.org
References: <1479102464.995918272@apps.rackspace.com> <CAMaMmnmHd+fVMqE8OaUJB+fGTUtBnVGZi0+GC_jpvkSSJPJ03w@mail.gmail.com>
From: Matt Miller <mamille2@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <3b750ae1-5618-7f82-60d0-3d32194c1bee@cisco.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 09:55:08 -0700
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <CAMaMmnmHd+fVMqE8OaUJB+fGTUtBnVGZi0+GC_jpvkSSJPJ03w@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="b3mAtk8U3EVJvX4VSrRsCr2rJ6MBWlfOf"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dane/4ChyHVo2ZGbBZaXQ0jD_zW2Jhks>
Subject: Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime
X-BeenThere: dane@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: DNS-based Authentication of Named Entities <dane.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dane>, <mailto:dane-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dane/>
List-Post: <mailto:dane@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dane-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dane>, <mailto:dane-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:55:12 -0000
As an experiment, I think this document is fine to move forward with. One minor point, though. In Section 9. "Security Considerations", third paragraph, it states in part: """ The MTA must deliver the message as-is, or encrypt the message before delivering. """ That reads as contradictory, and given the nature of this document, I suspect that the "must" is supposed to be a "might" or "should". - m&m Matt Miller Cisco Systems, Inc. On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:47 AM, Olafur Gudmundsson <ogud@ogud.com <mailto:ogud@ogud.com>> wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > > > We did the first WGLC in July 9 > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dane/AjUjw-EXbSt3nlEqt-bvvIacDZM > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dane/AjUjw-EXbSt3nlEqt-bvvIacDZM> > There was some discussion but the chairs did not receive enough > feedback to judge consensus. > Editors have updated the document to reflect feedback received > during the first WGLC > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dane/lu5PGEBkgpvJA0kHG0u-Q_o7BDk > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dane/lu5PGEBkgpvJA0kHG0u-Q_o7BDk> > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dane-smime-12 > <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dane-smime-12> > > We have published a document that relates to the experimental use of > PGP keys with DANE RFC7929 > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7929 > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7929> > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dane/7hRc1QDlP-i__415-VylSXiwsLE > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dane/7hRc1QDlP-i__415-VylSXiwsLE> > Many portions of this document are similar to RFC7929 - we realize > that many people do not like the consensus in that document, but > please do not re-open that discussion here. > Just like RFC7929, this is an EXPERIMENTAL RFC. > This is a second WGLC where the chairs ask the following question > Do you support the publication of this document as an EXPERIMENTAL RFC? > This WGLC will end on 28-11-2016 at 23:59 UTC > The document is “equivalent” to RFC7929. > Thus In the Chairs judgement: Only serious objections that do not > apply to 7929. need to be raised to prevent advancement of this ID. > Please state on the mailing list that you have reviewed the document > and RFC7929 and given the criteria above the document is ready to be > published. > If you have concerns related to the descriptions in the ID please > flag those as such. > Olafur & Warren > > _______________________________________________ > dane mailing list > dane@ietf.org <mailto:dane@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dane > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dane> > > > > > -- > DougM at Work > > > _______________________________________________ > dane mailing list > dane@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dane >
- [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Doug Montgomery
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Edward Lewis
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime John Levine
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Paul Wouters
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Paul Wouters
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime John Levine
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed)
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime John R Levine
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Jim Reid
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime tjw ietf
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed)
- [dane] direction of effort (was: Re: Second WGLC … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime John Levine
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed)
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime John R Levine
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed)
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime John R Levine
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Matt Miller
- Re: [dane] direction of effort (was: Re: Second W… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [dane] direction of effort Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] direction of effort Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] direction of effort Stephen Farrell
- [dane] Fwd: Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dane] Fwd: Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Shumon Huque
- Re: [dane] Fwd: Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed)
- Re: [dane] direction of effort Martin Rex
- [dane] S/MIME (was: Re: direction of effort) Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed)
- Re: [dane] direction of effort (was: Re: Second W… Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed)
- Re: [dane] direction of effort (was: Re: Second W… Viktor Dukhovni