[dane] direction of effort (was: Re: Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime)
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Mon, 21 November 2016 14:49 UTC
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Subject: [dane] direction of effort (was: Re: Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime)
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Hiya, I'm just curious... On 21/11/16 14:33, Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed) wrote: > We continue to pursue and support R&D efforts to develop SMIME-based > approaches to enterprise email security. Having a stable reference > will benefit those efforts. Is there a particular reason to try focus on enterprises here? I know that's where we started out with smime but I'm not sure it's a useful target these days. Wouldn't it be more likely more effective if we (for some "we") tried to get the largest mail providers to provide some form(s) of interoperable e2e email security? If that happened, (*) then I suspect many more enterprises would just re-use that than would ever deploy something by/for themselves. And if we don't end up with e2e email security at the major mail providers, then it'll probably not happen within many enterprises either. (IOW, maybe the focus on enterprises as a target for e2e mail security is a bit 20-th century? :-) (*) Yes, there are a bunch of reasons why this is not at all likely to happen. However, if we direct our efforts elsewhere that is one more nail in that coffin. Cheers, S. PS: I've nothing against the planned experiment here.
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- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime John Levine
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed)
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime John R Levine
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Jim Reid
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- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed)
- [dane] direction of effort (was: Re: Second WGLC … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime John Levine
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed)
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime John R Levine
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed)
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime John R Levine
- Re: [dane] Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Matt Miller
- Re: [dane] direction of effort (was: Re: Second W… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [dane] direction of effort Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] direction of effort Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] direction of effort Stephen Farrell
- [dane] Fwd: Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dane] Fwd: Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Shumon Huque
- Re: [dane] Fwd: Second WGLC draft-ietf-dane-smime Garfinkel, Simson L. (Fed)
- Re: [dane] direction of effort Martin Rex
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