Re: [dbound] On (not) moving forward
"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Sun, 20 March 2016 00:40 UTC
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>At this point, we would like the working group to consider and discuss why we appear to be entrenched, and what might get us moving. I've been scratching my head, too. As best I can tell, this is one of those problems where the more you think about it, the more twisty passages there are. So perhaps a revised goal would be to ask what is a minimal design that would still be better than downloading the PSL? I shamelessly argue that my draft is probably it. The lookups are fast, one plus the number of boundaries in a name (not the number of name components), the names can be self-published within the domain's tree, or in a third party tree, and it can handle different applications with different boundaries. The Decchio draft requires a new _odup top-level domain which I think makes it a non-starter, and the lookup process is so complex I don't entirely understand it but it appears I think it can involve tree walking. (Casey said that he had another version without a separate TLD, but if he's posted it I can't find it.) The Yao draft still has problems with wildcard semantics. I'm not arguing mine is perfect; Deccio can identify both boundary domains (co.uk) and organizational domains (example.com) which I don't, my organizational domains are implicit, so we might want to add some of his qualifiers. Andrew's always wanted to do cross-tree relationships, e.g., example.org is the same as example.com, but as far as I know nobody's come up with a way to do that without putting boundary records on every name in a subtree that might be related to something else. So how about if we pick a draft, preferably mine, and say either it's good enough to move ahead, or else say why it isn't. R's, John
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