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Re: [dbound] On (not) moving forward

Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Mon, 28 March 2016 17:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dbound] On (not) moving forward
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On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 06:26:25AM -0700, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> I think there's a risk of fragmentation already.

At either an APPSAWG meeting or the BoF that got us started, Phill
Hallam-Baker asserted that Comodo was already using its own private
version with different properties.  So in some realms, we have claims
of fragmentation today.

As a practical matter, we'll continue ot have that, since people will
make their own decisions about what they are willing to believe or
accept.  But I claim that it is better to start with data from the
authoritative operator of a given name than from anywhere else.

A


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