Re: [Dime] [dime] #34: Semantics of OC-Report-Type AVP

"Wiehe, Ulrich (NSN - DE/Munich)" <ulrich.wiehe@nsn.com> Tue, 11 February 2014 09:37 UTC

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From: "Wiehe, Ulrich (NSN - DE/Munich)" <ulrich.wiehe@nsn.com>
To: ext Steve Donovan <srdonovan@usdonovans.com>, "dime@ietf.org" <dime@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Dime] [dime] #34: Semantics of OC-Report-Type AVP
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Subject: Re: [Dime] [dime] #34: Semantics of OC-Report-Type AVP
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Steve,

I do not agree.

e.g. 
1. reacting node sends Request with application ID = x to reporting node
2. reporting node sends back answer (containing an OLR) with application ID = x
3. reacting node now may very well send  a new request with application ID = y to the reporting node without breaking any Diameter rules. 
The new request sent in step 3 is NOT subject to throttling according to the OLR received in step 2.
I hope this is not contentious.
In order to provide a complete list of conditions to say when an OLR of a given type applies to a new request, we should not let c) go by the board.

Ulrich


 


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Subject: Re: [Dime] [dime] #34: Semantics of OC-Report-Type AVP


>>       c) The value of the Application-ID in the Diameter Header of the
>>          request matches the value of the Application-ID of the Diameter
>>          Header of the received message that contained the OC-OLR AVP.
> No need for this since we agreed that DOIC implicitly always refers 
> to the application on which the DOIC AVPs are carried in.
> <Ulrich>yes, we agreed on that, so c) is correct and it does not harm to keep c)</Ulrich>
SRD> I don't see the reason for including this statement.  By
definition, an overload report
applies to the application ID in the answer message.  There is no way
for the application-id
in the answer message to be different than the application-id in the
request message without
breaking Diameter.

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