Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-rfc4005bis-01

Sebastien Decugis <sdecugis@nict.go.jp> Mon, 16 August 2010 01:37 UTC

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 Hi,

Le 13/08/2010 18:12, Stefan Winter a écrit :
>  FWIW, if were to write about RADIUS<->Diameter translation, it would
> be one very short paragraph "This doesn't work." Note that I think
> that this sentence is necessary IMHO; merely not writing *anything*
> about the topic, because "noone ever used it", is not enough. You
> know, some people might be *curious* about the topic, and could be
> *told* that they need not look any further.
Ideally, the RFC4005 bis will contain this sentence, with an explanation
of why it would not work.
Personnally, I still don't see why is that. I agree that in a few cases
there are untranslatable attributes, but then:
- as long as the Diameter server is aware of a RADIUS end point, it can
avoid these attributes.
- in any case if we require to send this large data, RADIA will not help.

But, now the draft has been accepted as a WG item, so I guess there is
little interest in continuing this argument ^^.

Best regards,
Sebastien.

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Sebastien Decugis
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Network Architecture Group
NICT (nict.go.jp)