Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-rfc4005bis-01
"Glen Zorn" <gwz@net-zen.net> Sun, 15 August 2010 10:19 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-rfc4005bis-01
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Sebastien Decugis [mailto:sdecugis@nict.go.jp] writes: > Hi again Glen, Hi, sorry for the slow reply! ... > >>> In any case, if they decided to migrate to Diameter they could use > the > >>> pointless tunneling protocol, retiring their RADIUS server when the > >>> transition was complete. > >> You are implying that each domain can retire its RADIUS server only > when > >> *all* the domains have moved all their clients to Diameter... This > >> reasoning may be possible in a single-domain context, but it does not > >> hold in a multi-domain roaming consortium case. > > Care to give some sort of rationale for this statement? > Well, assume domain A is still using RADIUS and domain B has moved all > its equipment to Diameter. > Now a user from domain B is accessing the network through a NAS in > domain A. > > NAS-A -> RADIA agent (in RADIUS) > RDR -> domain B in Diameter. > Now, one needs to de-tunnel the RADIUS message from the RDR and then > have a RADIUS stack to interpret this message, right? Yes; presumably this would be the RADIUS server that they are retiring. > Hence my comment that we cannot get rid of RADIUS in domain B until all > domains in the consortium have moved to Diameter... OK, but it was the assertion that "This reasoning may be possible in a single-domain context, but it does not hold in a multi-domain roaming consortium case" that I was questioning. > In addition, with RADIA you loose the benefit of Diameter applications > allowing to route different applications to different servers. I'm confused: isn't the only Diameter app that deals w/RADIUS stuff NASREQ? > > Best regards, > Sebastien. > > -- > Sebastien Decugis > Research fellow > Network Architecture Group > NICT (nict.go.jp) >
- [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-rfc40… jouni korhonen
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… jouni korhonen
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… lionel.morand
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- [Dime] Concluded: WG adoption call for draft-zorn… jouni korhonen
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Stefan Winter
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Stefan Winter
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Alan DeKok
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Stefan Winter
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Stefan Winter
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Stefan Winter
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis