Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-rfc4005bis-01
Stefan Winter <stefan.winter@restena.lu> Fri, 13 August 2010 09:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-rfc4005bis-01
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> I think that the idea is not to say that RADIUS/Diameter interworking is > not possible at all. The idea is more about to acknowledge the fact that > RFC 4005 can not remain the de-facto and the only reference for > RADIUS/Diameter translation as this section is under specified and not > applicable anyway to all RADIUS/Diameter interworking scenarios. As > something has to be done, it is proposed to remove anything about > RADIUS/Diameter translation from RFC 4005. The NASREQ application is > self-consistent without this part. That seems like a good reasoning. So: I support adoption of this document. Greetings, Stefan Winter >>> The problem is that apparently nobody has _ever_ transitioned from >>> RADIUS to Diameter and it appears as if nobody ever will. >> I am not so pessimistic about Diameter :) >> >>> Regarding EDUROAM, Diameter >>> existed long before EDUROAM but they chose to hack RADIUS >> in their own way. >>> In any case, if they decided to migrate to Diameter they >> could use the >>> pointless tunneling protocol, retiring their RADIUS server when the >>> transition was complete. >> You are implying that each domain can retire its RADIUS >> server only when >> *all* the domains have moved all their clients to Diameter... >> This reasoning may be possible in a single-domain context, >> but it does not hold in a multi-domain roaming consortium case. > About roaming issues, I think that we should make the difference between > inter-domain and intra-domain. If there exists a solution for > RADIUS/Diameter interworking, each domain could rely on either RADIUS or > Diameter, and the interworking solution would be applied *only* between > AAA servers/proxies. In intra-domain, if a single AAA server can support > both RADIUS and Diameter clients, the migration path is quite simple, > no? > >> Best regards, >> Sebastien. >> >> -- >> Sebastien Decugis >> Research fellow >> Network Architecture Group >> NICT (nict.go.jp) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> DiME mailing list >> DiME@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dime >> > _______________________________________________ > DiME mailing list > DiME@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dime -- Stefan WINTER Ingenieur de Recherche Fondation RESTENA - Réseau Téléinformatique de l'Education Nationale et de la Recherche 6, rue Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi L-1359 Luxembourg Tel: +352 424409 1 Fax: +352 422473
- [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-rfc40… jouni korhonen
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… jouni korhonen
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… lionel.morand
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- [Dime] Concluded: WG adoption call for draft-zorn… jouni korhonen
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Stefan Winter
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Stefan Winter
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Alan DeKok
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Stefan Winter
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Stefan Winter
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Stefan Winter
- Re: [Dime] WG adoption call for draft-zorn-dime-r… Sebastien Decugis