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Re: [dmarc-ietf] making mail not work for your users, was the endless mailing list silliness

"Rolf E. Sonneveld" <R.E.Sonneveld@sonnection.nl> Sat, 20 April 2013 21:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] making mail not work for your users, was the endless mailing list silliness
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On 04/20/2013 11:11 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:
>
>
> On 4/20/2013 2:01 PM, John R Levine wrote:
>>>>> Once I can tell the message is verifiably from dmarc@ietf.org, I'm 
>>>>> done
>>>>> caring.
>>>>
>>>> It's got an ietf.org DKIM signature.  What more do you need?
>>>
>>> ietf.org signs all sorts of stuff, including messages that turn out to
>>> be spam.
>>
>> True.  It's got an ietf.org signature on a List-ID header, which is
>> somewhat more specific to this list.
>
> that sounds suspicious like claiming that including it in the hash 
> equates to validating it contents...
>
> anyhow, the spam that the ietf sends goes /through/ its lists...

well, nobody claims that DKIM-signed messages never can be spam. The 
keyword here again is: reputation. If ietf.org is redistributing+signing 
too much spam messages this will have impact on the reputation of 
d=ietf.org...

/rolf

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