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Re: [dmarc-ietf] making mail not work for your users, was the endless mailing list silliness

Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com> Sat, 20 April 2013 20:51 UTC

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 13:51:21 -0700
From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] making mail not work for your users, was the endless mailing list silliness
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On 4/20/2013 1:17 PM, John Levine wrote:
>> Once I can tell the message is verifiably from dmarc@ietf.org, I'm done
>> caring.
>
> It's got an ietf.org DKIM signature.  What more do you need?


ietf.org signs all sorts of stuff, including messages that turn out to 
be spam.

d/

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