Re: [dns-privacy] Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-dprive-dnsodtls.

"Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)" <tireddy@cisco.com> Tue, 23 August 2016 01:44 UTC

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From: "Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)" <tireddy@cisco.com>
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-dprive-dnsodtls.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: dns-privacy [mailto:dns-privacy-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Stephane Bortzmeyer
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 8:42 PM
> To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
> Cc: dns-privacy@ietf.org; DPRIVE-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-dprive-
> dnsodtls@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-dprive-dnsodtls.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 01:05:40PM -0400,  Warren Kumari
> <warren@kumari.net> wrote  a message of 38 lines which said:
> 
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dprive-dnsodtls/
> 
> I've read it (the last version, -10) and, for me, it is OK, and ready to be sent to
> the next step.
> 
> I would like to make it a bit shorter by deleting two sentences, "An active
> attacker can send bogus responses causing misdirection of the subsequent
> connection" in the abstract and "Active attackers have long been successful at
> injecting bogus responses, causing cache poisoning and causing misdirection
> of the subsequent connection (if attacking A or AAAA records).  A popular
> mitigation against that attack is to use ephemeral and random source ports
> for DNS queries [RFC5452]." in section 1. Both are about an attack which is
> *not* mitigated by DNS-over-DTLS and these two sentences are clearly out of
> scope. (The relationship with DNSSEC, which solves these attacks, is already
> handled in section 1.1.)

Done.

> 
> Otherwise, now that the well-knon port is not absolutely mandatory, I suggest
> to change "Once the DNS client succeeds in receiving HelloVerifyRequest from
> the server via UDP on the well-known port for DNS-over-DTLS" to "Once the
> DNS client succeeds in receiving HelloVerifyRequest from the server via UDP
> from the port used for DNS-over-DTLS".

Based on feedback from Christian that HelloVerifyRequest is optional from the server, removed the above line and replaced with the following lines:

   DNS client initiates DTLS handshake as described in [RFC6347],
   following the best practices specified in [RFC7525].  After DTLS
   negotiation completes, if the DTLS handshake succeeds according to
   [RFC6347] the connection will be encrypted and is now protected from
   eavesdropping.

> 
> RFC 2119 mandatory flame war: "the DNS client may want to probe the server
> using DTLS heartbeat" May or MAY?

Changed to "MAY". 

-Tiru

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