Re: [DNSOP] extension of DoH to authoritative servers

"zuopeng@cnnic.cn" <zuopeng@cnnic.cn> Thu, 14 February 2019 06:36 UTC

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Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:36:14 +0800
From: "zuopeng@cnnic.cn" <zuopeng@cnnic.cn>
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
Cc: dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
References: <2019021215560470371417@cnnic.cn>, <alpine.LRH.2.21.1902120846480.18026@bofh.nohats.ca>, <201902131403257357123@cnnic.cn>, <20190213134408.ri5iy42q7u7h37ui@sources.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] extension of DoH to authoritative servers
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i think both DNSSEC and DoH(or DoT) can protect DNS data, the fundmental point it to establish the trust chain and transit trust. Regarding the case"secondary name servers mnaged by a different organisation", the servers can publish several TLSAs to distingush them.

This idea is just a sketch model and provides another option for DNS security and privacy. Transiting trust is hard but may be accomplished in the future. The deployment of DNSSEC also takes a long time and is still in progress. 



zuopeng@cnnic.cn
 
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer
Date: 2019-02-13 21:44
To: zuopeng@cnnic.cn
CC: dnsop; Paul Wouters
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] extension of DoH to authoritative servers
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 02:03:26PM +0800,
zuopeng@cnnic.cn <zuopeng@cnnic.cn> wrote 
a message of 103 lines which said:
 
> that's ture. but in my view, if the trust chain is built, we can
> ensure a resolver(or a cache) is always talking to a identified
> server and the channel is always secure, then the content could not
> be tampered.
 
Several emails already mentioned cases where it is not true (relaying
through a forwarder - transitive trust is hard - or secondary name
servers mnaged by a different organisation - a common use case).
 
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