Re: [DNSOP] extension of DoH to authoritative servers

"Patrik Fältström " <> Tue, 12 February 2019 20:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] extension of DoH to authoritative servers
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On 12 Feb 2019, at 21:48, Paul Vixie wrote:

> whether the situation turns out to be temporary or not is important to your final argument. probably you shouldn't go there so soon. spammers also believe that network operators should not be able to control their own networks, and malware authors, and botnet creators, and IoT innovators, and surveillance capitalists. none of those matters seem like they are, or will ever be, settled. so, none are "temporary".

The current legal system and court decisions require access providers to have some control. Today it is "enough" for the access providers to block DNS lookup of certain domain names. We on THIS list understand how easy it is to go around that kind of blocking, but that does not matter. It is enough for the legal systems in the world.

If the control over the DNS lookups is no longer possible by the access provider, then the access providers by law have to use other tools to control the traffic from their customers.

So, it is not only their choice.