Re: [DNSOP] draft-yao-dnsop-idntld-implementation-01.txt

+1.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Seng 
  To: Andrew Sullivan 
  Cc: dnsop@ietf.org 
  Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-yao-dnsop-idntld-implementation-01.txt

  "There is a genuine user problem here (though whether one should actually solve it is still an open question)."

  It is a genuine user problem but I disagree with your latter statement.

  It is not an open question it must be solved. It is a serious enough problem for Chinese that it must be resolve for the Chinese user. The open question is "how", not "if".

  For some background on CJK ideograph, you may refer to an expired draft I wrote many years ago

  http://james.seng.sg/files/draft-ietf-idn-cjk-01.pdf

  RFC 3743 will also be a good point of reference.

  -James Seng

  On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@shinkuro.com> wrote:

    On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 07:06:38PM +0000, Alex Bligh wrote:

    > I should probably declare my hand in that I think in most cases the
    > variant stuff is a non-problem (blocking is adequate apart from
    > where the user is likely to mistype themselves)

    According to some people I'm inclined to believe (I can't say this
    from personal experience), in non-alphabetic scripts there is indeed a
    serious problem with respect to variants.  It's not actually like the
    case of (say) colour vs. color, because users tend to have access to
    one version or another of the "same" character, but that character is
    actually encoded under Unicode as a different character.  This is, I
    am led to believe, a very common problem in areas where, for instance,
    Simplified and Traditional Chinese characters are both in regular use.
    The upshot is that every competent user of the language will recognize
    two different arrangements of symbols as "the same word", each user
    will be able to type one or the other of the arrangements (but not
    both) at their keyboard, and yet the two different arrangements do not
    constitute equvalent labels.  So, it's as though by configuring your
    system with locale en-CA, you were _unable_ to type "color.com" into a
    resolution context.  There is a genuine user problem here (though
    whether one should actually solve it is still an open question).

    Best,

    A

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    Andrew Sullivan
    ajs@shinkuro.com
    Shinkuro, Inc.
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