Re: [DNSOP] proposal: Covert in-band zone data

Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> Mon, 08 July 2019 20:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] proposal: Covert in-band zone data
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> On Jul 6, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> wrote:
> TSIG secrets are rarely rolled in practice, in my experience, and
> being able to improve upon that also seems useful.

Very much agreed, whether using this mechanism or other.

                                -Bill