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Re: [DNSOP] proposal: Covert in-band zone data

Witold Krecicki <wpk@isc.org> Mon, 08 July 2019 20:57 UTC

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From: Witold Krecicki <wpk@isc.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] proposal: Covert in-band zone data
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W dniu 08.07.2019 o 22:40, jabley@hopcount.ca pisze:
> Hi Witold,
> 
> On Jul 8, 2019, at 16:05, Witold Krecicki <wpk@isc.org> wrote:
> 
> W dniu 08.07.2019 o 19:20, Wessels, Duane pisze:
> 
>> One more thing - this feature is intended for operators, not for regular
>> users. We should have more tolerance for shootfooting features there.
> 
> I don't have anything extra to add to my earlier observations and I understand in general the points you are making.
> 
> One small thing though, on your text above -- I'm not sure precisely what you mean by those words, but it seems possible that you're distinguishing between large, commercial DNS service operators and others who might be smaller, non-commercial, hobbyist, amateur, or something.

People querying DNS servers vs people operating DNS servers that are
queried, it's just that.

Witold

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