Re: [DNSOP] discussion for draft-appelbaum-dnsop-onion-tld-00.txt

Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg> Wed, 18 March 2015 03:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] discussion for draft-appelbaum-dnsop-onion-tld-00.txt
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On 17 March 2015 at 10:49, David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> wrote:
>> On 17 March 2015 at 10:36, David Cake <dave@difference.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> I'm generally in favour of this proposal.
>
> +1

I also support this draft.

CA issuance for .onion post-October is dependent on this draft, and
external reliance on an RFC (or lack of RFC) by some date is not
particularly uncommon. It's not a reason to rush a draft through of
course, but it is why we are hoping people can consider the technical
merits of the draft and raise substantive (and editorial) concerns.

To the discussion of aborting lookup, returning NXDOMAIN locally, etc
- everyone understands that this is not guaranteed to occur - but we
can hope it will, and can point people to this document as
encouragement. And even if no software conforms to these guidelines,
having .onion in the special use registry is still appropriate and
useful.

-tom