Re: [DNSOP] Updated NSEC5 protocol spec and paper

Frederico A C Neves <fneves@registro.br> Fri, 10 March 2017 18:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Updated NSEC5 protocol spec and paper
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On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 01:15:42PM -0500, Shumon Huque wrote:
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> 
> Apparently there are many folks in the community who think so, otherwise
> NSEC3 would not have been developed. I personally don't care for any zones

I know others have already stated this but zone enumeration, at least
at that time, was never the real reason for NSEC3, size of signing
zones with mostly unsigned delegations was. This was only needed
because of the wg lack of management and sensibility to operators
needs leading to the historical debacle of opt-in. We changed the
name, and voila opt-out ;-)

Fred