Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-kumari-ogud-dnsop-cds-02.txt
Antoin Verschuren <antoin.verschuren@sidn.nl> Tue, 09 July 2013 07:46 UTC
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Op 08-07-13 20:28, Patrik Fältström schreef: > One such situation is what is to happen when NS records changes in > the parent zone. > > An immediate reaction is that change of NS records should trigger > fetch of CDS record from the child zone so that the new DS can be > included in the new version of the zone that have the new NS > records. Careful thinking should say whether that is a correct > thinking of me. Why would DS records change when NS records change? I guess you're thinking only one scenario here, and that is when NS records change, the DNS operator of the master changes and the zone will get different key material. But this is not the general case, only the most difficult one to solve. Only changing one slave NS by another does not change the operator maintaining the key material. Changing the operator maintaining the key material does happen, and when it does, changing the DS after changing the NS will not help you autoprovision. The zone will get bogus if you change the DS after changing the NS, and so no CDS change can be validated at all. Changing the key material operator needs pre-publishing of the new key material in the zone of the losing operator for the NS change to be validated. The new NS RRset in the child is signed with the new key material only. I know you all wish the world was simpler, but it isn't, We've tried. > And a third if the auth servers queried at should be the ones that > there are NS records for in the parent zone or the NS records that > exists in the child zone. I agree with Andrew here that the NS RRset in the child zone is authoritative, but it can only be used if validated. > Lastly, I think it should be very clear not only what the priority > is between different versions of CDS records, but also between CDS > records and epp commands. If different registries implement > different policies here, the world might risk being much messier > than what we want. Exactly my statement. - -- Antoin Verschuren Technical Policy Advisor SIDN Meander 501, PO Box 5022, 6802 EA Arnhem, The Netherlands P: +31 26 3525500 M: +31 6 23368970 Mailto: antoin.verschuren@sidn.nl XMPP: antoin.verschuren@jabber.sidn.nl HTTP://www.sidn.nl/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJR27+5AAoJEDqHrM883Agn4wsH/1xXv9FkndogVEbzUQdLZhLD XB7JqT1QmKATKf+Ec6Rp1RLsA6QgA8XvyZOSzlUM/jEGARtldp1YncPsue/FO7an oRaTi/vk4o1rR+e8A/LKZvl0Ix0RbVZ+yA2NS+TtXCKm/eMJOjZy5TA9oNwINhfA 55d+V+jVro5rdfNO8yRflpe+Np3M9AOWmPdTgLTlw6axwvh8bZeJJ4jHjmrxpQWm GhXpVuRztG1+TJP+zBStKNNvvnMFps7oL3fdb+UlbI67f7KSpSfG4eyw3GSO/poA 0XF6nOfWZD/QFQoBIq8gWi4od2J9ImOcgsrCofnT+CdOP9+IBzQiYQqKxZHeDH0= =34D4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ku… Antoin Verschuren
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ku… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ku… Antoin Verschuren
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