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Re: [DNSOP] extension of DoH to authoritative servers

Benno Overeinder <benno@NLnetLabs.nl> Wed, 13 February 2019 08:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] extension of DoH to authoritative servers
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On 12/02/2019 09:34, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 03:56:04PM +0800,
>  zuopeng@cnnic.cn <zuopeng@cnnic.cn> wrote 
>  a message of 546 lines which said:
> 
>> DNSSEC is not necessary anymore
> 
> This is clearly false. DoH provides _channel security_ DNSSEC provides
> _content security_ (or object security). This is a very important
> difference in security (we have JWS even if we have HTTPS, for
> instance).

Indeed, you might want to look at one of the presentations by Willem
Toorop and myself.  In respect of channel security, DoH and DoT with
authenticated TLS are similar.

- RIPE 76 DNS WG
  https://ripe76.ripe.net/presentations/56-sunrise-DoT-sunset-DNSSEC.pdf
  https://ripe76.ripe.net/archives/video/67

- ICANN DNS Symposium 2018

https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/presentation-sunrise-dns-tls-sunset-dnssec-13jul18-en.pdf

- APNIC/RIPE blog post: Sunrise DNS over TLS, sunset DNSSEC?
  https://blog.apnic.net/2018/08/17/sunrise-dns-over-tls-sunset-dnssec/

https://labs.ripe.net/Members/willem_toorop/sunrise-dns-over-tls-sunset-dnssec

-- Benno

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Benno J. Overeinder
NLnet Labs
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