Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-05.txt

Andrew McConachie <andrew@depht.com> Thu, 30 March 2017 20:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-05.txt
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On 3/13/17 10:59, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations of the IETF.
>
>          Title           : DNS Terminology
>          Authors         : Paul Hoffman
>                            Andrew Sullivan
>                            Kazunori Fujiwara
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-05.txt
> 	Pages           : 35
> 	Date            : 2017-03-13
>
> Abstract:
>     The DNS is defined in literally dozens of different RFCs.  The
>     terminology used by implementers and developers of DNS protocols, and
>     by operators of DNS systems, has sometimes changed in the decades
>     since the DNS was first defined.  This document gives current
>     definitions for many of the terms used in the DNS in a single
>     document.
>
>     This document will be the successor to RFC 7719.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis/
>
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-05
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-05
>
>
If a domain name is made up of labels, and labels are made up of octets, 
then can there be non-digital representations of domain names? For 
example, if I spray paint 'www.example' on the side of a bus, is it not 
a domain name because it is made up of paint instead of octets?

I don't see anything in this document restricting the terms to 'on the 
wire' definitions. So I assume that the scope of 'domain name' includes 
non-digital instantiations. Perhaps what's needed isn't so much a new 
definition for label, but clarification on the scope of these terms and 
their definitions.

Thanks,
Andrew