Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology-03

joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Fri, 17 July 2015 13:27 UTC

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On 7/16/15 6:44 AM, Warren Kumari wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 01:30:03PM +0200, Warren Kumari wrote:
>>> We shouldn't be figuring out how useful a WG is by the number of
>>> documents published, but I don't think DNSOP is still where documents
>>> go to die...
>>
>> Agreed, but I also don't want to return to that bleak past where we
>> could never get anything published because it wasn't perfect, and then
>> the number of recycles got high enough that nobody would review, so
>> the draft wasn't perfect, and so on.

good enough is a substantiallly different  bar then good.

If there are things that folks really cannot live with I think that's
really what I want to know about.

> +very many much lots.
> 
> I just wanted to acknowledge the fact that our chairs are now getting
> documents pushed through....
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> W
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>> The editors will put their heads
>> together once more on the basis of the most recent comments.
>>
>> A
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>> ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
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