Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-powerbind

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Thu, 30 April 2020 23:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-powerbind
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> On 1 May 2020, at 08:39, Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> wrote:
> 
> Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> writes:
> 
>> Well, for example there are some 28,000 examples of orphan glue in the
>> ORG zone.
> 
> Yep, I suspect some of the bigger TLDs probably couldn't opt in to this
> draft simply because they're full of, um, "history".  Until that history
> is cleaned, they probably couldn't deploy it.

I doubt there is any real history here other than “we didn’t properly clean
up the records when the delegation was removed”.  If a DNS provider goes belly
up then all the zones dependent on that provider should FAIL.  Its just poor
zone hygiene that leaves orphaned glue in the ORG zone.

>> Anyway, thanks for the edits; I will send comments back to the list
>> when I've had a chance to read them thoroughly.
> 
> Great!
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> Wes Hardaker
> USC/ISI
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