[DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-19
Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> Tue, 26 May 2026 07:08 UTC
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Subject: [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-19
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Hi, On May 26, 2026, at 10:00, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote: > Mark is right. I can’t envision any scenario where I wouldn’t want the browser to be in full control of that is shown to the user (incl. localization). To be more direct: Adding localization at this layer is IMO a terrible idea. There is a lot of complexity added here that still isn't nearly solved by what the doc currently says AND I fail to understand who even needs this in the first place. I mean, the WG can choose to go down this path, but don’t expect browsers to implement any of this. Lars
- [DNSOP] AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… tirumal reddy
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Mukund Sivaraman
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Mukund Sivaraman
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Mukund Sivaraman
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Dan Wing
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Mukund Sivaraman
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [DNSOP] Re: [Ext] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dns… Paul Hoffman
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Mark Nottingham
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Mukund Sivaraman
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Mark Nottingham
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… tirumal reddy
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Lars Eggert
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Lars Eggert
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… tirumal reddy
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Lars Eggert
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… tirumal reddy
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structu… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)