Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Mon, 06 January 2014 20:54 UTC
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Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 15:54:17 -0500
From: Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names
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On Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 01:48:04PM -0500, Ted Lemon wrote: > It seems to me that TOR is a pretty vital application, even if it's > not as popular as .local (which, let's be honest, is almost never > seen, much less typed, by an end user). Addresses in ".onion" are opaque, non-mnemonic, alpha-semi-numeric hashes corresponding to an 80-bit truncated SHA1 hash over a given Tor hidden service's public key. I'm pretty sure things in .onion are never supposed to be seen, much less typed, by an end user too. > I am deeply skeptical of > the idea that the only relevant factor here is how widespread the > squatting is on a particular top-level special-use domain. I have never suggested that's the only relevant factor. But I have suggested that the argument, "This needs to be a TLD that steps on the standard ICANN allocation mecahnism because it's already widely deployed," needs some evidence of that wide deployment. In the case of .onion, for instance, it is very far from obvious to me that the name needed to have been allocated directly beneath the root (as opposed to, say, inside .arpa); but if Tor is already widely deployed, the argument in favour of allocating that string in the root due to practical side effects is made stronger. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
- [DNSOP] More complete review of draft-grothoff-ie… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] More complete review of draft-grothof… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [DNSOP] More complete review of draft-grothof… Christian Grothoff
- Re: [DNSOP] More complete review of draft-grothof… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] More complete review of draft-grothof… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] More complete review of draft-grothof… Christian Grothoff
- Re: [DNSOP] More complete review of draft-grothof… Guangqing Deng
- Re: [DNSOP] More complete review of draft-grothof… Andrew Sullivan
- [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-spec… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Christian Grothoff
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] More complete review of draft-grothof… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Paul Hoffman
- [DNSOP] special names process & context Re: More … Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] More complete review of draft-grothof… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] More complete review of draft-grothof… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] More complete review of draft-grothof… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] On squatting and draft-grothoff-iesg-… Stephane Bortzmeyer