Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IETF should warn against its use
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Fri, 12 May 2023 08:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IETF should warn against its use
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Le 11/05/2023 à 12:24, Rudolf van der Berg a écrit : > Dom Robinson looped me in and I now joined the mailing list. > > I was surprised to see that kWh/GB and equivalents as measures of > electricity use of networks and sometimes wider; datacenters and > consumer electronics, are seriously mentioned by some people on this > list. kWh/GB is one of the most misleading and scientifically incorrect > ways of describing the energy use of networks. Sure. It could be kWGoh (short for (kW * Go)/h), or it could Joule per bit. For qubits it would be different again. Alex
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- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Romain Jacob
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Marie-Paule Odini
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Vesna Manojlovic
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Dom Robinson
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Romain Jacob
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Romain Jacob
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Dom Robinson
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Cedric Westphal
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Cedric Westphal
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Dom Robinson
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Cedric Westphal
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Manner Jukka
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Jari Arkko
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Manner Jukka
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Chris Adams
- [E-impact] Constrained vs non-constrained environ… Cedric Westphal
- Re: [E-impact] Constrained vs non-constrained env… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] Constrained vs non-constrained env… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [E-impact] Constrained vs non-constrained env… Hesham ElBakoury
- [E-impact] The "human-readable" delusion Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [E-impact] The "human-readable" delusion Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Dom Robinson
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Dom Robinson
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… mp
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… mp
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Dom Robinson
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Marie-Paule Odini
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… mp
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Alexander Clemm
- [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainabilit… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Dom Robinson
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Romain Jacob
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Michael Welzl
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] Metrics for E-Impact and Sustainab… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Romain Jacob
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Romain Jacob
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Rudolf van der Berg
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Alexandre Petrescu
- [E-impact] Clarification Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Dom Robinson
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Marie-Paule Odini
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Marie-Paule Odini
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [E-impact] kWh/GB should be banned and the IE… Alexandre Petrescu