Re: [earlywarning] Beijing agenda slots

"DALY, BRIAN K (ATTCINW)" <BD2985@att.com> Tue, 14 September 2010 18:25 UTC

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To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, "Brian Rosen" <br@brianrosen.net>, "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com>
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I should point out that the ITU effort is really not where the work is
done for the cell broadcast standards supporting the public warning
system (ETWS and CMAS). That work is done in 3GPP and specifically ATIS.
The ITU effort is focused on harmonization of alert message identifiers
used by cell broadcast; however those message identifiers are
standardized in 3GPP CT.

Also, we do not see ATOCA being applicable to CMAS/PWS.

If any liaison needs to be set up, it should be it ATIS and 3GPP.

Regards,
Brian K. Daly
AT&T Mobility Services, LLC
+1.425.580.6873
brian.k.daly@att.com

Rethink Possible


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[mailto:earlywarning-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:31 AM
To: Brian Rosen; DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
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Subject: Re: [earlywarning] Beijing agenda slots

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Dan
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: earlywarning-bounces@ietf.org 
> [mailto:earlywarning-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian Rosen
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:45 PM
> To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
> Cc: earlywarning@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [earlywarning] Beijing agenda slots
> 
> I think it would be interesting to learn more about how it works.
> 
> I think we would like our work to be able to take advantage 
> of any layer 2 mechanisms available that increase the rate at 
> which notifications can be delivered to intended recipients.  
> Understanding how this particular layer 2 mechanism works may 
> be helpful in making sure our higher level protocol work 
> might use it if the operators cared to.
> 
> Brian
> 
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 10:30 AM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote:
> 
> > Can I suggest you read the charter of ATOCA before 
> introducing 4G discussions to the meetings.
> > 
> > It is not the function of ATOCA to define a replacement for 
> cell broadcast systems of warning.
> > 
> > Keith
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: earlywarning-bounces@ietf.org
> >> [mailto:earlywarning-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mark Wood
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:23 AM
> >> To: Thomson, Martin
> >> Cc: earlywarning@ietf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [earlywarning] Beijing agenda slots
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi People;
> >> 
> >> I am Mark Wood, the convener of the ITU-T SG2 liaison on 
> "multicast 
> >> address space harmonization for civic purposes".
> >> 
> >> As a matter of reference for your kind attention, I can take a few 
> >> minutes to describe the mechanism of cell broadcasting in 
> 2nd and 3rd 
> >> generation mobile networks and explain the ITU-T SG2 
> liaison, so that 
> >> we can discuss if any of the discoveries made there are of any 
> >> relevance to the ATOCA deliberations or not.
> >> 
> >> The ITU is not seeking any infuence over IETF 
> deliberations, but the 
> >> process at ITU has been on going for 4 years, and a lot of 
> >> discoveries were made in that time which you may find interesting.
> >> 
> >> The next ITU-T SG2 meeting is the week after the IETF, so 
> I will be 
> >> in a position to relay to them any thoughts or 
> observations that you 
> >> may have.
> >> At the last ITU meeting Nov 2009, questions were raised on 
> the matter 
> >> of 4G mobile networks and how they would accommodate 
> public warnings, 
> >> so your deliberations will be of great interest to the 
> delegates at 
> >> ITU. I will of course relay to you any outcomes that the November 
> >> meeting of ITU may produce.
> >> 
> >> May I also suggest that ATOCA be added as a 'Liason' to the ITU 
> >> process and visa versa.
> >> 
> >> By November, member states of ITU may have submitted more 
> liaisons of 
> >> their own to ITU, which we may be able to reference for 
> informational 
> >> purposes.
> >> 
> >> I intend to attend the whole IETF in Beijing, so I will be 
> available 
> >> to gladly answer any questions.
> >> 
> >> Mark Wood DRCF.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Tue, September 14, 2010 2:04 am, Thomson, Martin wrote:
> >>> We've requested a time slot for ATOCA at the Beijing meeting.
> >>> 
> >>> If you would like to request some time on the agenda,
> >> please let us know.
> >>> We're expecting to spend some time on the following drafts:
> >>> 
> >>>  draft-rosen-atoca-cap
> >>>  draft-rosen-atoca-server-discovery
> >>>  draft-schulzrinne-atoca-requirements
> >>> 
> >>> Expect a draft agenda in the next few weeks.
> >>> 
> >>> The ATOCA chairs,
> >>> Scott and Martin
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >> 
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Mark Wood, CTO Cellcast Corp. mark.wood@cellcastcorp.com
> >> +44 7 818 400 124
> >> 
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