Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-atoca-requirements-00

Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> Thu, 22 July 2010 12:58 UTC

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My problem with this is that it shifts the burden to the endpoints, and that is how you get incompatibilities.

I understand it is hard to get a decent taxonomy.

Having none means endpoints either miss alerts they wanted, or get alerts they don't, because there is no standard for alert taxonomy.

Brian

On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:40 PM, Thomson, Martin wrote:

>> I suspect that there will never be an agreement on the categories and
>> the only way to go with this is to
>> * just define a top level service
>> * pick a few sub-level services
>> * provide extension points.
> 
> I'm starting to think that avoiding taxonomies should be a goal.  Let's see if we can't avoid it first.
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