Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering
"Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)" <hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com> Mon, 27 October 2008 18:38 UTC
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From: "Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)" <hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com>
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We in the group can make decisions at any time regardless of what was presented at the meeting. I believe we should speed up a bit with our work. I also hope that you and Brian are going to update the PhoneBCP/Framework document so that we get that document out of our way >-----Original Message----- >From: ext James M. Polk [mailto:jmpolk@cisco.com] >Sent: 27 October, 2008 20:36 >To: Richard Barnes; Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) >Cc: ECRIT >Subject: Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering > >At 08:39 AM 10/27/2008, Richard Barnes wrote: >>I think there are a few milestones missing from this charter: > >I think, but could be wrong, that only one of these IDs >(Henning's) has been presented to the WG. That usually limits >their ability to be a WG item yet. > > >>-- A Standards-Track document describing how SIP messages related to >>emergency calling are distinguished from other >>messages(draft-patel-ecrit-sos-parameter) >>3GPP have made it pretty clear (both on this list and last >week at the >>emergency services workshop) that this mechanism or something like it >>is a requirement for their emergency calling system. >> >>-- An Informational document describing requirements for emergency >>calling by unregistered or unauthenticated devices. >>(draft-schulzrinne-ecrit-unauthenticated access) This is an >issue that >>ECRIT has avoided for a long time, as other SDOs have been developing >>mechanisms. It would be useful to have an Internet-level analysis to >>unify these lower-level approaches and guide their development. >> >>-- An Informational document describing best practices for emergency >>calling from autonomous devices (vs. human callers) >>(draft-rosen-ecrit-ecall) >>Lots of different organizations (e.g., EU eCall and OGC's sensor web) >>are interested in having sensors or other devices place emergency >>calls. These efforts could be more interoperable and better aligned >>with the ECRIT architecture if it were made explicit which subset of >>the ECRIT framework these systems should use. >> >>Cheers, >>--Richard >> >> >> >>On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - >>FI/Espoo) ><<mailto:hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com>hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com> wrote: >>Here is a first proposal for the ECRIT WG rechartering based on the >>discussions we had around IETF#72. >>For the moment, I have put 3 additional documents onto the charter: >><http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-polk-ecrit-local-emergency-rph >-namespac >>e-03.txt>http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-polk-ecrit-local-emerg >ency-rph- >>namespace- >>03.txt >>http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-barnes-ecrit-rough-loc-00.txt >><http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-forte-ecrit-lost-extensions-00 >.txt>http >>://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-forte-ecrit-lost-extensions-00.txt >> >>Regarding the following two documents >><http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-forte-ecrit-service-classifica >tion-00.t >>xt>http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-forte-ecrit-service-classifi >cation-00 >>.txt http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-sun-ecrit-shelter-service-00.txt >>I am waiting for additional feedback from the draft authors >on how they >>perceive these documents should be progressed through the >IETF, see my >>mail here: >><http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg05518.h >tml>http: >>//www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg05518.html >> >>Please take a look at it and give me feedback till the 21st October >>2008. >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------- >--------- >>- >>--------------------------- >> >>Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies (ecrit) >> >>Description of Working Group: >> >>In a number of areas, the public switched telephone network >(PSTN) has >>been configured to recognize an explicitly specified number (commonly >>one that is short and easily memorized) as a call for emergency >>services. These numbers (e.g. 911, 112) relate to an >emergency service >>context and depend on a broad, regional configuration of service >>contact methods and a geographically-constrained context of service >>delivery. These calls are intended to be delivered to special call >>centers equipped to manage emergency response. Successful delivery of >>an emergency service call within those systems requires both an >>association of the physical location of the originator with an >>appropriate emergency service center and call routing to deliver the >>call to the center. >> >>Calls placed using Internet technologies do not use the same >systems to >>achieve those goals, and the common use of overlay networks >and tunnels >>(either as VPNs or for mobility) makes meeting them more >challenging. >>There are, however, Internet technologies available to describe >>location and to manage call routing. This working group will >describe >>when these may be appropriate and how they may be used. This group is >>considering emergency services calls which might be made by >any user of >>the Internet, as opposed to government or military services that may >>impose very different authentication and routing requirements. >> >>While this group anticipates a close working relationship with groups >>such as NENA and ETSI EMTEL, any solution presented must be useful >>regardless of jurisdiction, and it must be possible to use without a >>single, central authority. Further, it must be possible for multiple >>delegations within a jurisdiction to be handled >independently, as call >>routing for specific emergency types may be independent. >> >>The group will work on the maintainance of the Location-to-Service >>Translation (LoST) protocol, on (emergency services and non-emergency >>services related)extensions to LoST to the as well as on necessary >>extension related to emergency call routing. >> >>This working group cares about privacy and security concerns, >and will >>address them within its documents. >> >>Goals and Milestones: >> >>Done An Informational RFC containing terminology >definitions >>and the requirements >>Done An Informational document describing the threats and >>security considerations >>Done A Standards Track RFC describing how to identify a >>session set-up request is to an emergency response center >>Done A Standards Track RFC describing how to route an >>emergency call based on location information >>Done An Informational document describing the Mapping >>Protocol Architecture >>Dec 2008 An Informational document describing the >ECRIT Framework >>Dec 2008 A BCP document describing the emergency call >support for >>devices >>Oct 2008 An Informational document providing a problem >statement >>and requirements for location hiding >>Oct 2008 An Informational document specifying how to express >>holes in LoST service boundaries >>Dec 2008 An Informational document describing how to >synchronize >>LoST servers >>Jan 2009 A Standards Track RFC registering a SIP Resource >>Priority Header Namespace for Local Emergency Communications >>Feb 2009 An Informational document describing how imprecise >>location is used for emergency context resolution >>Feb 2009 A Standards Track RFC containing Location-to-Service >>Translation Protocol (LoST) Extensions >>_______________________________________________ >>Ecrit mailing list >><mailto:Ecrit@ietf.org>Ecrit@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Ecrit mailing list >>Ecrit@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > > _______________________________________________ Ecrit mailing list Ecrit@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit
- [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)