Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:35:59 -0500
To: Richard Barnes <richard.barnes.ietf@gmail.com>, "Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)" <hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering
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At 08:39 AM 10/27/2008, Richard Barnes wrote: >I think there are a few milestones missing from this charter: I think, but could be wrong, that only one of these IDs (Henning's) has been presented to the WG. That usually limits their ability to be a WG item yet. >-- A Standards-Track document describing how SIP messages related to >emergency calling are distinguished from other >messages(draft-patel-ecrit-sos-parameter) >3GPP have made it pretty clear (both on this list and last week at the >emergency services workshop) that this mechanism or something like it is a >requirement for their emergency calling system. > >-- An Informational document describing requirements for emergency calling >by unregistered or unauthenticated devices. >(draft-schulzrinne-ecrit-unauthenticated access) >This is an issue that ECRIT has avoided for a long time, as other SDOs have >been developing mechanisms. It would be useful to have an Internet-level >analysis to unify these lower-level approaches and guide their development. > >-- An Informational document describing best practices for emergency >calling from autonomous devices (vs. human callers) >(draft-rosen-ecrit-ecall) >Lots of different organizations (e.g., EU eCall and OGC's sensor web) are >interested in having sensors or other devices place emergency calls. These >efforts could be more interoperable and better aligned with the ECRIT >architecture if it were made explicit which subset of the ECRIT framework >these systems should use. > >Cheers, >--Richard > > > >On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - >FI/Espoo) <<mailto:hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com>hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com> wrote: >Here is a first proposal for the ECRIT WG rechartering based on the >discussions we had around IETF#72. >For the moment, I have put 3 additional documents onto the charter: ><http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-polk-ecrit-local-emergency-rph-namespace-03.txt>http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-polk-ecrit-local-emergency-rph-namespace- >03.txt >http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-barnes-ecrit-rough-loc-00.txt ><http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-forte-ecrit-lost-extensions-00.txt>http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-forte-ecrit-lost-extensions-00.txt > >Regarding the following two documents ><http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-forte-ecrit-service-classification-00.txt>http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-forte-ecrit-service-classification-00.txt >http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-sun-ecrit-shelter-service-00.txt >I am waiting for additional feedback from the draft authors on how they >perceive these documents should be progressed through the IETF, see my >mail here: ><http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg05518.html>http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ecrit/current/msg05518.html > >Please take a look at it and give me feedback till the 21st October >2008. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >--------------------------- > >Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies (ecrit) > >Description of Working Group: > >In a number of areas, the public switched telephone network (PSTN) has >been configured to recognize an explicitly specified number (commonly >one that is short and easily memorized) as a call for emergency >services. These numbers (e.g. 911, 112) relate to an emergency >service context and depend on a broad, regional configuration of >service contact methods and a geographically-constrained context of >service delivery. These calls are intended to be delivered to special >call centers equipped to manage emergency response. Successful >delivery of an emergency service call within those systems requires >both an association of the physical location of the originator with an >appropriate emergency service center and call routing to deliver the >call to the center. > >Calls placed using Internet technologies do not use the same systems >to achieve those goals, and the common use of overlay networks and >tunnels (either as VPNs or for mobility) makes meeting them more >challenging. There are, however, Internet technologies available to >describe location and to manage call routing. This working group will >describe when these may be appropriate and how they may be used. This >group is considering emergency services calls which might be made by >any user of the Internet, as opposed to government or military >services that may impose very different authentication and routing >requirements. > >While this group anticipates a close working relationship with groups >such as NENA and ETSI EMTEL, any solution presented must be useful >regardless of jurisdiction, and it must be possible to use without a >single, central authority. Further, it must be possible for multiple >delegations within a jurisdiction to be handled independently, as call >routing for specific emergency types may be independent. > >The group will work on the maintainance of the >Location-to-Service Translation (LoST) protocol, on (emergency services >and non-emergency services related)extensions to LoST to the as well as >on necessary extension related to emergency call routing. > >This working group cares about privacy and security concerns, and will >address them within its documents. > >Goals and Milestones: > >Done An Informational RFC containing terminology definitions >and the requirements >Done An Informational document describing the threats and >security considerations >Done A Standards Track RFC describing how to identify a >session set-up request is to an emergency response center >Done A Standards Track RFC describing how to route an >emergency call based on location information >Done An Informational document describing the Mapping >Protocol Architecture >Dec 2008 An Informational document describing the ECRIT Framework >Dec 2008 A BCP document describing the emergency call support for >devices >Oct 2008 An Informational document providing a problem statement >and requirements for location hiding >Oct 2008 An Informational document specifying how to express >holes in LoST service boundaries >Dec 2008 An Informational document describing how to synchronize >LoST servers >Jan 2009 A Standards Track RFC registering a SIP Resource >Priority Header Namespace for Local Emergency Communications >Feb 2009 An Informational document describing how imprecise >location is used for emergency context resolution >Feb 2009 A Standards Track RFC containing Location-to-Service >Translation Protocol (LoST) Extensions >_______________________________________________ >Ecrit mailing list ><mailto:Ecrit@ietf.org>Ecrit@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > > >_______________________________________________ >Ecrit mailing list >Ecrit@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit _______________________________________________ Ecrit mailing list Ecrit@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit
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- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] ECRIT WG Rechartering James M. Polk
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