Re: [Ecrit] [IANA #658921] General Request for Assignment (urn-serviceid-labels)

["DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <[e-mail]>]

I believe all the specifications require is that sos.police is handled appropriately if sos.police.national and sos.police.local exist and that depends on national regulation. It would be perfectly legitimate that sos.police is handled by a third set of PSAPs, but the likely scenario is that they are handled either by PSAPs relating to sos.police.national, or by PSAPS relating to sos.police.local.

The point is that depending on the nature of the national police force versus munical police force in any given country, either could apply, and I suspect we could identify European examples that support both.

Keith

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From: Ivo Sedlacek [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: 20 March 2013 15:32
To: Richard Barnes
Cc: Martin Thomson; DRAGE, Keith (Keith); Rosen, Brian; [e-mail]
Subject: RE: [Ecrit] [IANA #658921] General Request for Assignment (urn-serviceid-labels)

Hello,

> How is the first of those two different from "urn:service:sos.police" ?  That is, do you envision a case where "sos.police", "sos.police.national", and "sos.police.local" all refer to different entities?

"sos.police.local" (municipal police) will refer to the PSAP of the municipal police.
"sos.police.national" (national police) will refer to the PSAP of the national police.
In the Czech republic, a request for "sos.police" will likely be routed to the PSAP of the national police. If a major crime is to be reported, the municipal police will need to hand it over to the national police anyway. I do not know requirements in other countries.

Kind regards

Ivo Sedlacek

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From: Richard Barnes [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: 20. března 2013 15:42
To: Ivo Sedlacek
Cc: Martin Thomson; DRAGE, Keith (Keith); Rosen, Brian; [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [Ecrit] [IANA #658921] General Request for Assignment (urn-serviceid-labels)

Ivo,

How is the first of those two different from "urn:service:sos.police" ?  That is, do you envision a case where "sos.police", "sos.police.national", and "sos.police.local" all refer to different entities?

--Richard


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Ivo Sedlacek <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Hello,

we need to distinguish:
- the emergency service of the municipal police (e.g. to be used to report a pickpocket)
- the emergency service of the national police (e.g. to be used to report a murder).

In a given location, the user can call any of them and get different service. That's why different emergency URNs are needed.

I have no strong view whether ".local" or other suffix (e.g. ".A3") is to identify the emergency service of the municipal police.

Kind regards

Ivo Sedlacek

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From: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> [mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>] On Behalf Of Martin Thomson
Sent: 19. března 2013 21:03
To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
Cc: Rosen, Brian; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [Ecrit] [IANA #658921] General Request for Assignment (urn-serviceid-labels)
On 19 March 2013 12:27, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> Martin Thomson wrote:
>
>> I agree with Brian, "local" is not just ambiguous, it's redundant.
>> "urn:service:sos.police.local" is semantically equivalent to
>> "urn:service:sos.police".
>>
>
> I disagree with the last part of this.

I think that you missed my point.  By nature, all urn:service:sos sub-services are local.  That's why LoST exists.  Adding ".local" is redundant.
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