Re: [EME] The virtual circuit trap mentioned in the EME charter - need for clarification

Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Tue, 14 November 2006 19:11 UTC

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Rémi Després wrote:
> 2. I am not aware, personally, of failures of classical NATs that cannot
> be recovered (I mean those NATs that all of us use extensively)..

When there are multiple NATs that could be used for egress or ingress.

An outgoing SYN establishes state at one NAT that is typically not
shared with the other NATs; if the routing changes behind the NAT to the
egress, or in front of the NAT on the return path, the connection
breaks. FWIW, that routing can change for many reasons, including
failure of a NAT box itself.

Whether that's recoverable depends on whether you're willing to
reestablish a connection as part of recovery.

Joe

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