[Extra] Sieve REJECT and :fcc [was Re: Meeting minutes and notes from today]

Stan Kalisch <stan@glyphein.mailforce.net> Thu, 16 November 2017 22:06 UTC

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From: Stan Kalisch <stan@glyphein.mailforce.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:06:52 -0500
To: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com>
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Subject: [Extra] Sieve REJECT and :fcc [was Re: Meeting minutes and notes from today]
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Hi,

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 3:30 AM, Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com> wrote:
> 
> There is an open question for this one:
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-extra-sieve-fcc/
> 
> Ned Freed objected to supporting :fcc for the REJECT action because it allows the sieve server to "lie" about whether it's keeping a copy of the message.  There was debate about whether we should stop people lying at this level, especially since a mail flow could take a copy of every single email before it reached sieve.

I haven't been able to watch any video of the meeting yet, but would it be fair to say the main points of this debate were laid out in this thread on the Sieve mailing list earlier this year?

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sieve/current/msg05362.html


Thanks,
Stan