Re: [fun] [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal

"Stephen [kiwin] PALM" <palm@broadcom.com> Thu, 30 June 2011 16:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [fun] [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal
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It is not for "us" to decide when a user's network is not worth expending
any more energy on. They have deployed their network...
and do not want to expend any more energy themselves.  If their SP deploys
IPv6 inelegantly, the user would have a lot of frustration/work.  Which
will generate many expensive tech support calls... and potentially lost customers.

It's not the protocols... it's the DEPLOYED APPLICATIONS and DEVICES that users have.

regards, kiwin

On 6/30/2011 9:11 AM, Ralph Droms (rdroms) wrote:
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> "Gone" isn't so important as "not worth expending any more energy on.". So I'm with Keith and would like to find some words like "when it doesn't take any more work."
>
> - Ralph
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> On Jun 30, 2011, at 12:00 PM, "Fernando Gont"<fernando@gont.com.ar>  wrote:
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>> On 06/30/2011 12:46 PM, Keith Moore wrote:
>>> I'd like for this group to relax the "wherever possible" bit, so as to not preclude solutions where IPv6 can do a better job than IPv4.
>>>
>>> IPv4 is a dinosaur gasping for its last breaths.
>>
>> Just curious: when you expect IPv4 to be gone? (including "gone" from
>> home and enterprise networks)
>>
>> Thanks,
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