Re: [fun] [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal

Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar> Thu, 30 June 2011 09:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [fun] [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal
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Jari,

On 06/30/2011 06:38 AM, Jari Arkko wrote:
> But their architecture is largely done and cannot be easily affected.
> Vendors are now looking into adding IPv6 into their home routers and
> other devices. I want to be able to show them how to do it right. They
> can, of course, replicate everything exactly as in IPv4. Much of it is
> right, of course, but on some areas I think we can do better. This is
> why the working group should focus on IPv6. 

My point is: Will implementation of the produced RFCs lead to home
networks in which stuff works for IPv6 differently from how it works for
IPv4? e.g., your home network would have multiple subnets (thanks to
PD), but a single IPv4 subnet?

If our work focuses only on IPv6, I get the impression that we're
heading in that direction.

If HOMENET is going to improve stuff that we already do with IPv4 (by
leveraging IPv6), then that's fine... but not what I read from this
discussion and the proposed charter.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
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