Re: [fun] [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal

"Ralph Droms (rdroms)" <rdroms@cisco.com> Thu, 30 June 2011 16:10 UTC

Return-Path: <rdroms@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: fun@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: fun@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9954511E8220; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:10:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -8.867
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.867 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.732, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rZ+yNzpOEVLA; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:10:48 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F17E11E821A; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:10:48 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=rdroms@cisco.com; l=941; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1309450248; x=1310659848; h=subject:references:content-transfer-encoding:from: in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:cc:mime-version; bh=bMk/E1TDsXlPxJTkXcj6b8wz2UZNv0T/jdC8hjpXTns=; b=lGSFZf0ZySMxw5azPr4ZInL6j5rbfrCASHU8wQJUa79ImDLVdMxDBlt9 +uDhGliKYOT/54S//c/BgmIVByQyvNt/W4Bs1hA7b5x60FKLf3lu0j16R 7Pf+57YN9odm+TaEZo4rfeyS8PtU8G+wybCBRFtK+1kkw2cW4nrhxrORF c=;
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlkGAMyeDE6tJXG9/2dsb2JhbABSpmtpAneIeKFzngGGMQSSL4R/hzuEEA
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,450,1304294400"; d="scan'208";a="724860735"
Received: from rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com ([173.37.113.189]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Jun 2011 16:10:47 +0000
Received: from xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com [72.163.62.200]) by rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p5UGAljP016732; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:10:47 GMT
Received: from xmb-rcd-202.cisco.com ([72.163.62.209]) by xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:10:46 -0500
Received: from 144.254.231.94 ([144.254.231.94]) by XMB-RCD-202.cisco.com ([72.163.62.209]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:10:47 +0000
References: <4E0AE696.4020603@piuha.net> <4E0BDCF3.1090003@gont.com.ar> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1106300707370.19581@uplift.swm.pp.se> <4E0C1CF8.7090601@gont.com.ar> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1106300923280.19581@uplift.swm.pp.se> <558D0669-8B2A-4514-B3FB-C690C40A4EF8@townsley.net> <0F995E91-9853-4018-91F0-0699E1A7A06F@network-heretics.com> <4E0C9D58.30002@gont.com.ar>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thread-topic: [fun] [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal
thread-index: Acw3QEVSasHua7EIRTmly+ZH07zAOQ==
From: "Ralph Droms (rdroms)" <rdroms@cisco.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
In-Reply-To: <4E0C9D58.30002@gont.com.ar>
Message-ID: <A371107A-2DD1-461F-B37F-BF5D481B05AB@cisco.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:11:31 -0400
To: Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>
MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J3)
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2011 16:10:46.0824 (UTC) FILETIME=[455FC280:01CC3740]
Cc: fun@ietf.org, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [fun] [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal
X-BeenThere: fun@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: "FUture home Networking \(FUN\)" <fun.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/fun>, <mailto:fun-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/fun>
List-Post: <mailto:fun@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:fun-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fun>, <mailto:fun-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:10:52 -0000

"Gone" isn't so important as "not worth expending any more energy on.". So I'm with Keith and would like to find some words like "when it doesn't take any more work."

- Ralph

On Jun 30, 2011, at 12:00 PM, "Fernando Gont" <fernando@gont.com.ar> wrote:

> On 06/30/2011 12:46 PM, Keith Moore wrote:
>> I'd like for this group to relax the "wherever possible" bit, so as to not preclude solutions where IPv6 can do a better job than IPv4.
>> 
>> IPv4 is a dinosaur gasping for its last breaths.
> 
> Just curious: when you expect IPv4 to be gone? (including "gone" from
> home and enterprise networks)
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Fernando Gont
> e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@acm.org
> PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> fun mailing list
> fun@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fun