Re: [fun] Revised homenet charter for IESG consideration

Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com> Tue, 28 June 2011 14:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [fun] Revised homenet charter for IESG consideration
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On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:06 AM 6/28/11, Randy Turner wrote:

> "without active administration" should probably be the goal regardless of topology..,

Obscure wording on my part.  What I was trying to express was, in fact, homenet should do its work within two independent constraints:

* simple network of a few links and routers
* operates without active admin intervention

- Ralph

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> Randy
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> On Jun 28, 2011, at 3:16 AM, Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com> wrote:
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>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 1:52 PM 6/27/11, David Harrington wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> This sounds more like the description of an IRTF RG than an IETF WG.
>>> The ***engineering*** apparently is not yet clearly understood, and
>>> the "specific protocol work described below" is not at all specific.
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>> [...] with the major constraint that a simple network of a few links and routers has to operate with active admin intervention.
>> 
>> s/with active admin intervention/without active admin intervention/
>> 
>> - Ralph
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