Re: [gaia] Ammbr: Happy Marriage of mesh and blockchain

indeed, possibly..

one of the goals of flxible paxos was to allow
tradeoffs to manage varying latency...eventually..
https://arxiv.org/abs/1608.06696

> One question that has been lurking on my mind is - are these consensus
> algorithms inherently unfair for nodes that are on high latency links? 
> E.g.
> if we have bitcoin mining nodes also in Chad - and most bitcoin
> transactions happen in Russia, China and other parts in Europe - would
> there be fairness in terms of earning mining revenue?
> 
> Regards
> 
> On 22 Sep 2017 08:00, "Jon Crowcroft" <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> > i think that post confuses bitcoin specifics with how to do scalable 
> fast
> > consensus - there are quite a few papers on making consensus scale up to
> > very high speeds- forthcoming conext paper from keshav has some very
> > impressive transaction rates..
> > S. Rizvi, B, Wong, and S. Keshav, "Canopus: A Scalable and Massively
> > Parallel Consensus Protocol," To appear, Proc. CoNEXT 2017, December 
> 2017.
> > but for the impatient, you can also read this paper on high throughput,
> > low latency from folks who are :
> > very expert in this space (cornell, imperial):
> > Teechan: Payment Channels Using Trusted Execution Environments
> > https://arxiv.org/abs/1612.07766
> >
> > there's a lot of other solutions out there too (I believe 
> deepmind/google
> > have some inhouse thing they are working on with a target of 10M
> > trsansactions per sec)....
> >
> > much of this depends on the workload assumptions though
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan <
> > arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> this post was interesting:
> >> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/slow-blockchain-mathematical-
> >> certainty-patrick-mcconnell/
> >>
> >> On 12 August 2017 at 15:02, Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >> > ah, you could run global consensus (blockchain) on the transactions
> >> then use
> >> > a route later - yes, that'd work....then you could get rid of
> >> reflationary
> >> > stuff + remove unfairness....would take some care in design....
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Jon,
> >> >>
> >> >> if you do not care about delays and you allow storing (encrypted)
> >> packets
> >> >> until a link/route is available as in DTN networks, how would this
> >> analysis
> >> >> change?
> >> >>
> >> >> vint
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Jon Crowcroft
> >> >> <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> great! fab - checkout this thing we did a while on "currency" & ad 
> hoc
> >> >>> nets - there's a bit about inflationary/deflationary tendencies 
> near
> >> the end
> >> >>> might be worth factoring in...
> >> >>> http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~frank/PAPERS/micmahn.pdf
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan
> >> >>> <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> This article would be of interest to a new initiative to build a
> >> >>>> decentralised network using blockchain - technically aiming to 
> build
> >> the
> >> >>>> world's largest blockchain network:
> >> >>>> https://medium.com/@globalsecurepayments/the-happy-marriage-
> >> of-mesh-and-blockchain-276cce4a4909
> >> >>>>
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