Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12

"Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)" <kwiereng@cisco.com> Fri, 11 December 2015 18:10 UTC

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From: "Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)" <kwiereng@cisco.com>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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Hi Stephen,

>> 
>>> 2.In general I was wondering why this is an Informational document. It
>>> defines procedures and has normative language.
>> 
>> That sounds like kind of an unfortunate bug. For some reason, it changed
>> from Standards Track to Informational between versions -00 and -01.
>> However, we want it standards-track with a normative downreference to
>> radsec. Can it be done at this moment or does it require a more complex
>> process?
> 
> Hmm. The shepherd write-up says informational is correct. If the WG
> chairs want to, we can re-spin the IETF LC. But this has been so
> long in the process and has slowly so I'd prefer to not do that
> unless someone really cares, and it makes a difference.
> 
> For now, I've kept this on the Dec17 IESG telechat as informational
> but if needed we can push it into the new year.

The authors unanimously prefer standards track, so I'm afraid a new last call is required.

Klaas