Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg-lsn-deployment-04
Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Thu, 23 January 2014 04:21 UTC
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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg-lsn-deployment-04
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WFM On 22 January 2014 23:22, Victor Kuarsingh <victor@jvknet.com> wrote: > Martin, > > I am loading a new new version today, but here is that section (originally > called "Motivation") for quick review. > > ** Beginning of section ** > > Existing Network Considerations (new name of section) > > The selection of CGN may be made by an operator based on a number of > factors. The overall driver to use CGN may be the depletion of IPv4 address > pools which leaves little to no addresses for a growing IPv4 service or > connection demand growth. IPv6 is considered the strategic answer for IPv4 > address depletion; however, the operator may independently decide that CGN > is needed to supplement IPv6 and address their particular IPv4 service > deployment needs. > > If the operator has chosen to deploy CGN, they should do this in a manner as > not to negatively impact the existing IPv4 or IPv6 subscriber base. This > will include solving a number of challenges since subscribers whose > connections require translation will have network routing and flow needs > which are different from legacy IPv4 connections. > > ** End of section ** > > regards, > > Victor K > > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> On 22 January 2014 13:00, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote: >> > Is your concern that the sentence "IPv6 is considered the strategic >> > answer" >> > in section 2 is not stressed enough? >> >> >> I think that the text in the second paragraph is slightly more loaded. >> In particular, >> >> These issues >> leave an operator in a precarious position which may lead to the >> decision to deploy CGN. >> >> The rest of the section uses similarly loaded: >> >> The ability to replace IPv4-only equipment may be out of the control >> of the operator, and even when it's in the administrative control, it >> poses both cost and technical challenges as operators build out >> massive programs for equipment retirement or upgrade. >> >> "precarious position", "poses both cost and technical challenges", ... >> all arguably true, but not strictly neutral. > >
- [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg-lsn… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-opsawg… Jari Arkko