[Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-gendispatc h-derivative-01
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Wed, 15 July 2026 07:34 UTC
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Subject: [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-gendispatc h-derivative-01
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Hi Simon, At 10:45 PM 14-07-2026, Simon Josefsson wrote: >I've seen (and been guilty of) document feedback being ignored because >it wasn't systematically tracked. I've seen it happening before. >It mostly comes down to author diligence, which seems weak if we claim >to conduct an open transparent standardization process. > >I would support IETF introducing systematic public issue tracking for >(WG)LC comments. Software for issue tracking has been publicly available since a long time (it's mentioned below) >Why? > >I am guessing the primary reason we don't track concerns in any >systematic way is because WG Chairs find this too much work. > >Any random free software project on GitHub, GitLab, Codeberg etc has an >issue tracker were issues can be opened, browsed and discussed. There >is no membership requirement. > >I can think of lots of argument against systematically tracked issues -- >IMHO most boils down to "too much work" -- but membership concerns >haven't been on my radar for that. The membership question depends on whether one requires on a fixed number of persons to work on a draft. The number would be point in time within an IETF context, i.e. it would be different one month earlier or one month later. For what it is worth, there isn't any publicly-accessible information about the mailing list composition nowadays. Regards, S. Moonesamy
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Derivative Works: draft-sayre-gendi… Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Mark Nottingham
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… S Moonesamy
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Salz, Rich
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Salz, Rich
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Derivative Wor… Scott O. Bradner
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Derivative Wor… Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … D. J. Bernstein
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Paul Wouters
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Derivative… Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Derivative… D. J. Bernstein
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Derivative… Livingood, Jason
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: De… D. J. Bernstein
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Derivative… D. J. Bernstein
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Roman Danyliw
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Roman Danyliw
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Roman Danyliw
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Salz, Rich
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Stephen Farrell
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Stephen Farrell
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Stephen Farrell
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Eric Rescorla
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … John Levine
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Stephen Farrell
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … S Moonesamy
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Derivative… Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Derivative… Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Derivative… D. J. Bernstein
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Derivative… Jay Daley
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Re: Deriva… D. J. Bernstein
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Re: Deriva… Jay Daley
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: De… D. J. Bernstein
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: De… Bron Gondwana
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: De… Jay Daley
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re… D. J. Bernstein
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re… Eric Rescorla
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Re: Re: Derivative… Stephen Farrell
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Simon Josefsson
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… S Moonesamy
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Derivative Works: draf… Jeffrey Haas
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Derivative Works: draf… S Moonesamy
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Derivative Works: … Michael Richardson
- [Gendispatch] Issue tracking [was Re: Derivative … Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Issue tracking [was Re… D. J. Bernstein
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Issue tracking [was Re… S Moonesamy
- [Gendispatch] Re: Issue tracking [was Re: Derivat… Eric Rescorla
- [Gendispatch] Re: Issue tracking [was Re: Derivat… Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Issue tracking [wa… Stephen Farrell
- [Gendispatch] Re: [procon] Re: Issue tracking [wa… Eric Rescorla
- [Gendispatch] Re: Derivative Works: draft-sayre-g… Rob Sayre