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Re: [Gendispatch] First comments on draft-rsalz-2028bis-00.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 09 September 2021 23:24 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] First comments on draft-rsalz-2028bis-00.txt
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On 10-Sep-21 00:54, Salz, Rich wrote:
>     > By writing it all down, Rich seems to have shown that some of these relationships are absurdly complex.
> 
> I don't see it as absurdly complex, far from it. You need to separate the "control plane" (how people are picked for positions) from the "data plane" (how documents flow through to become RFC's). Perhaps the doc could be more clear about that.  What do you think is absurdly complex, ideally in the data plane part.
> 
>> We have a plate of our own spaghetti to sort out first: https://www.ietf.org/standards/process/informal/
> 
> Ideally, once this draft gets adopted and then published, that page basically goes away and points to the document.

Oh no, it doesn't. Have you ever actually contemplated how many process-related documents the IETF has? (At a rough count, 75.) It is truly impressive. The list is below my signature.

> We already have the Tao. Write things once.

The Tao nowhere near covers all you might need to know. It's the IETF for Dummies, really.

   Brian

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