Re: [Gendispatch] First comments on draft-rsalz-2028bis-00.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 10 September 2021 20:26 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] First comments on draft-rsalz-2028bis-00.txt
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On 11-Sep-21 02:10, Salz, Rich wrote:
>     > Ideally, once this draft gets adopted and then published, that page basically goes away and points to the document.
> 
>     Oh no, it doesn't. Have you ever actually contemplated how many process-related documents the IETF has? (At a rough count, 75.) It is truly impressive. The list is below my signature.
> 
> Luckily I'm friends with the webmaster there :)

You're not the only one, however.

>     > We already have the Tao. Write things once.
> 
>     The Tao nowhere near covers all you might need to know. It's the IETF for Dummies, really.
> 
> For a group that prefers to work on bytes on the wire, we sure do an awful lot of navel-gazing.

Sure. And the result of that is the collection of 75 RFCs that I cited. If you care to start a project to reduce that number, I think you'll find that https://xkcd.com/927 applies here too.

   Brian