Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: trust assets, draft-eggert-ietf-and-trust-00.txt
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: trust assets, draft-eggert-ietf-and-trust-00.txt
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It appears that Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> said: >> Anyway - maintaining the asset register is an operational matter. It >> should not be the target of a BCP. > >The document seems to say they aren't doing that maintenance. I am not sure >why anyone would disagree on that point. As the guy who pushed the trust to set up the asset register a few years ago, I find the document's assertion both uncalled for and offensive. Is there some reason neither of the authors nor anyone else who is interested was able to ask any of the trustees about it? For over a decade there was no asset register at all (the executive director we were paying at the time never got around to it) and I realized it was an obvious gap in our documents. As far as I know, the asset register is complete other than perhaps one or two recent copyright licenses from authors of early RFCs. If you're wondering where the copyright or license info is for all of the pre-3978 RFCs, other than a handful of licenses from ISI and a few of the authors, there isn't any. As Joel noted, attempting to determine the status of early RFCs would be a hugely expensive and unproductive exercise in frustration. In a few cases I doubt that anything short of a suit in a US federal court would resolve it (look at RFC 20) and I hope none of us want to go there. I am also baffled at the adversarial tone of this document, and the ahistorical way it ignores the Trust's unique history as an entity specifically set up to not be part of either ISOC or CNRI. R's, John
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: trust assets, draft… John Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: trust assets, draft… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: trust assets, draft… John R Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: trust assets, draft… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: trust assets, draft… John R Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: trust assets, draft… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: trust assets, draft… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: trust assets, draft… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… Jay Daley
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… Glenn Deen
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… Glenn Deen
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: trust assets, draft… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: trust assets, draft… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… John Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] the trust is not your lawyer, o… John Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] the trust is not your lawyer, o… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… Jay Daley
- Re: [Gendispatch] why the trust is not your lawyer John R Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] why the trust is not your lawyer Lloyd W
- Re: [Gendispatch] why the trust is not your lawyer Brian Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] why the trust is not your lawyer Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] why the trust is not your lawyer John Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] why the trust is not your lawyer Jay Daley
- Re: [Gendispatch] why the trust is not your lawyer John R Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-ietf-a… Jari Arkko