Re: [Geopriv] New indoor location - standards needed

Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@qualcomm.com> Thu, 04 December 2014 22:40 UTC

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At 7:49 PM +0000 12/4/14, Brian Rosen wrote:

>  might work, but SUPL isn't deployed outside 3G/4G networks, so I 
> suspect that's not what we would recommend.

At 8:43 PM +0000 12/4/14, Henning Schulzrinne wrote:

>  For SUPL, wouldn't OMA, rather than ATIS, be the right body to do the work?

This illustrates why we need coordination among the involved SDOs and 
why the IETF shouldn't jump prematurely to propose a protocol.  We 
don't want ATIS and the IETF developing mutually incompatible 
approaches.

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