Re: [Geopriv] WG Review: Recharter of GeographicLocation/Privacy (geopriv)

"Thomson, Martin" <Martin.Thomson@andrew.com> Wed, 17 June 2009 01:31 UTC

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From: "Thomson, Martin" <Martin.Thomson@andrew.com>
To: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com>, g.caron@bell.ca
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Subject: Re: [Geopriv] WG Review: Recharter of GeographicLocation/Privacy (geopriv)
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The work on filters is far less mature than the identity work.  Unless Brian has hidden wonders in store, I'd suggest that that work can wait.

--Martin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Cullen Jennings
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2009 8:27 AM
> To: <g.caron@bell.ca>
> Cc: geopriv@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Geopriv] WG Review: Recharter of
> GeographicLocation/Privacy (geopriv)
> 
> 
> Would people advise that we remove any of the currently proposed
> milestones until after the identity and work it depends on got
> completed?
> 
> On Jun 16, 2009, at 7:33 , <g.caron@bell.ca> <g.caron@bell.ca> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I kindly ask that draft-winterbottom-geopriv-held-identity-
> > extensions be considered for inclusion in the rechartered geopriv
> > Goals and Milestones. As discussed at the June 2008 geopriv interim
> > meeting, this extension to the basic HELD protocol is required for
> > some deployments.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Guy
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : geopriv-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] De
> > la part de IESG Secretary
> > Envoyé : 9 juin 2009 12:00
> > À : ietf-announce@ietf.org
> > Cc : geopriv@ietf.org
> > Objet : [Geopriv] WG Review: Recharter of Geographic Location/
> > Privacy (geopriv)
> >
> > A modified charter has been submitted for the Geographic Location/
> > Privacy
> > (geopriv) working group in the Real-time Applications and
> > Infrastructure
> > Area of the IETF.  The IESG has not made any determination as yet.
> > The
> > modified charter is provided below for informational purposes only.
> > Please send your comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg@ietf.org) by
> > Tuesday, June 16, 2009.
> >
> >
> > Geographic Location/Privacy (geopriv)
> > --------------------------------------
> > Last Modified: 2009-05-29
> >
> > Chair(s):
> > - Richard Barnes <rbarnes@bbn.com>
> > - Alissa Cooper <acooper@cdt.org>
> >
> > Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Director(s):
> > - Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
> > - Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com>
> >
> > Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Advisor:
> > - Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com>
> >
> > Technical Advisor(s):
> > - Lisa Dusseault <Lisa.Dusseault@messagingarchitects.com>
> >
> > Mailing Lists:
> > General Discussion: geopriv@ietf.org
> > To Subscribe: geopriv-request@ietf.org
> > In Body: subscribe
> > Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/index.html
> >
> > Description of Working Group:
> >
> > The IETF has recognized that many applications are emerging that
> > require geographic and civic location information about resources and
> > entities, and that the representation and transmission of that
> > information has significant privacy and security implications. We
> have
> > created a suite of protocols that allow such applications to
> represent
> > and transmit such location objects and to allow users to express
> > policies on how these representations are exposed and used. The IETF
> > has also begun working on creating applications that use these
> > capabilities, for emergency services, general real-time
> communication,
> > and other usages.
> >
> > The GEOPRIV working group is chartered to continue to develop and
> > refine representations of location in Internet protocols, and to
> > analyze the authorization, integrity, and privacy requirements that
> > must be met when these representations of location are created,
> > stored, and used. The group will create and refine mechanisms for the
> > transmission of these representations that address the requirements
> > that have been identified.
> >
> > The working group will work with other IETF working groups and other
> > standards development organizations that are building applications
> > that use location information to ensure that the requirements are
> well
> > understood and met, and that no additional security or privacy issues
> > related to location are left unaddressed as these location
> information
> > is incorporated into other protocols.
> >
> > It remains a goal of the GEOPRIV working group to deliver
> > specifications of broad applicability that will become mandatory to
> > implement for IETF protocols that are location aware.
> >
> > This working group will not develop location-determining technology.
> > However, the IETF acknowledges that information used in the location-
> > determination process will in some cases need to be carried over the
> > Internet. Where necessary, this working group will develop protocols
> > or protocol extensions to encode location-determination data
> > structures defined elsewhere. This working group will not develop
> > technologies to directly address any particular regulatory
> > requirements (e.g. 9-1-1). The group will continue to coordinate with
> > any other IETF entities that are working on those problems to ensure
> > the technologies created here meet the needs of those entities, and
> > that the authorization, integrity, and privacy requirements on the
> > mechanisms provided by these technologies continue to be met.
> >
> > Goals and Milestones:
> >
> > Done Discuss initial geopriv scenarios and application requirements
> >     i-d's
> > Done Discuss initial geographic location privacy and security
> >     requirements i-d.
> > Done Initial i-d on geographic information protocol design, including
> >     privacy and security techniques.
> > Done Review charter and initial i-ds with AD, and have IESG consider
> >     rechartering if necessary.
> > Done Submit geopriv scenarios and application requirements to IESG
> for
> >     publication as Informational RFCs
> > Done Submit security/privacy requirements I-D to IESG for publication
> >     As Informational RFC.
> > Done Submit PIDF-LO basic geopriv object draft as a PS
> > Done Initial Common Rules base object draft
> > Done Initial Common Rules GEOPRIV object draft
> > Done Submit DHCP Civil draft as a PS
> > Done Resubmit Conveying Location Objects in RADIUS and Diameter to
> >     the IESG for publication as PS
> > Done Submit Additional Civic PIDF-LO types (updating 4119) to the
> >     IESG for publication as PS
> > Done Submit minimal HTTP based protocol satisfying baseline
> >     requirements specified in the Layer 7 Location Conveyance
> Protocol
> >     Problem Statement and Requirements to the IESG for publication as
> >     PS
> > Done Submit PIDF-LO Usage Clarifications and Recommendations
> >     (updating 4119) to the IESG for publication as PS
> > Done Submit Layer 7 Location Conveyance Protocol Problem Statement
> >     and Requirements to the IESG for publication as Informational
> > Done Submit recommendations for representing civic addresses in
> >     PIDF-LO to the IESG for publication as BCP
> > Done Submit Recommendations for Retransmission in SIP Location
> >     Conveyance to the IESG for publication as Informational
> > Done Submit Requirements for Location by Reference Protocols to
> >     the IESG for publication as Informational
> > Done Submit a LIS Discovery Mechanism to the IESG for publication as
> a
> >     PS
> > Jun 2009 Resubmit Geolocation Policy to the IESG for publication as
> PS
> > Sep 2009 Submit an draft for DHCP geodetic location to the IESG for
> >     publication as PS to obsolete 3825
> > Sep 2009 Submit an Architecture for Location and Location Privacy
> >     to the IESG for publication as Informational
> > Dec 2009 Submit a URI scheme for directly expressing geodetic
> location
> >     to the IESG for publication as PS
> > Dec 2009 Submit a DHCP Option for a Location Uniform Resource
> >     Identifier (URI) to the IESG for publication as PS
> > Dec 2009 Submit a Document Format for Filtering and Reporting PIDF-LO
> >     Location Notifications to the IESG for publication as PS
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